Re: [Harp-L] Bent overbends



Winslow, they are not weak when you play them or when I play or even when Rosco plays but they are weak in comparison to the other notes I we can play. That was my point and even Rosco should be able to understand that.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Winslow Yerxa [mailto:winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2006 04:53 PM
>To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Bent overbends 
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>All bent notes are "weaker" than non-bent notes because the reed is
>vibrating a note that it wasn't built to sound, and it delivers less
>amplitude because it's vibrating less efficiently.
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>But sustaining overblows and making them strong sounding is certainly
>possible, and not that hard on a decently set up instrument. I've
>played whole lines of sustained overblows, some of them bent up one or
>two semitones - some here may remember a recording I made of a tune
>called "The Tinge".
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>Winslow
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>--- In harp-l-archives@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chris Michalek" <chris@...>
>wrote:
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>I don't do it that much because to my ears it sounds terrible. I also
>can't stand the sound of the disreet comb or the XB-40.  If I'm
>playing arabic style music then I'm apt to start bending "odd" note
>but other wise the OB's are really used in a quick flurry of notes. 
>OBs in general are pretty weak notes.
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Paul Bowering [mailto:paul_bowering@...]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2006 03:27 PM
>>To: harp-l@...
>>Subject: [Harp-L] Bent overbends (was Suzuki Pure harp review)
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>>Chris M. wrote:
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>>>Bending the OBs up is a true problem because of the
>>>short reeds. There are so few people that can 1.)
>>>actually do it or 2.) hit the correct pitch or 3) can
>>>do it but can't use it musically that I thought it
>>>wasn't necessary to mention.
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>>I've loved the verstility of both the Overdrive and
>>Discrete Comb. I use overbends for hitting a note
>>crisply and 'valve' style bends for sliding into a
>>note. Of course both these harp designs have their own
>>quirks which make them a challenge to play.
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>>On regular harps I really miss the expressiveness of
>>the isolated reed bends. Assume a 'C' harp. I can OB
>>Hole 4 for the Eb. I can even bend it up to E natural
>>(depending on the particular harp). I can't sustain it
>>however and what I don't think feasible would be to
>>hit that bent OB from a standstill. This is so
>>desireable because musically, one would want to slide
>>down from E to Eb just as much as slide up.
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>>Yeah, I've tried valved harps too. I like 'em on the
>>blow bends but couldn't make any headway on the valved
>>draw bends.
>>
>>I guess my question is for Chris or any other OB
>>heavyweights that might be lurking. Is this something
>>that can be done or do you just not bother with, say,
>>the given example of a bend from E to Eb?
>>
>>Since I'm only looking for expression and would use OB
>>to hit the missing notes one other approach might be
>>to employ prebends. Just the slight, quartertone bends
>>on Blows 4,5,6. How 'bout this option?
>>
>>Paul
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