Re: [Harp-L] learning diaphram vibrato

[Pierre <plavio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Not sure if it applies to harp but I found this in Google, might Google for 
more.

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Actually, vibrato is not produced by the diaphram, it occurs higher in the 
body (the throat area). This has ben documented through various studies, 
including x rays. You should search for articles in flute journals and 
double reed journals written by Keith Underwood (flute) and Chistopher Weit 
(bassoon). Underwood is a famous clinician known all over the world. He 
talks about how air rests on the diaphram, and this muscle (diaphram) is 
used to expell the air. He says that vibrato occurs higher in the body, up 
in the chest and throat area. Read about this, and you find that many people 
confuse terminology and actually improperly vibrato.

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I'm not sure I believe the above though, one can belly laugh without choking 
in the throat, but perhaps a light choke and the diaphram action together 
are more effective.

What I think you hear others do is a diaphram vibrato on a chord, octave or 
split. The choice of notes in the chord or split may be the difference you 
are looking for to get that sound. I'm sure the amp is part of the equation 
too. But all this you probably know.

Seems to me this works on a I chord, but not on draw chords. Perhaps that's 
just me though.

Pierre






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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:01 PM
Subject: [Harp-L] learning diaphram vibrato


> Hey list - I consider myself an intermediat player - have recorded and 
> currently play with a roots blues band.  I play mainly pucker embouchure, 
> but am learning tongue-blocking and do some octave playing already.  Of 
> the many techniques necessary to become a good diatonic player, I have the 
> most difficulty with diaphram vibrato.  I can do all kinds of throat / 
> hand vibrato, but can't seem to get the deep diaphram technique.   I know 
> what it is supposed to sound like (from other harp players with good 
> diaphram vibrato technique)  and I know the inhaling sound that is 
> supposed to be the approximation of the breathing technique without the 
> harp in your mouth.  I just can't seem to get it.  Is it possible that 
> some people can't do this for some anatomical reason?  How have others 
> gotten over the hump learning vibrato? How can you tell if you're actually 
> doing it but not well enough so as not to practice useless and wrong 
> technique.
>
> Any ideas?  thanks list
>
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