Re: [Harp-L] Seydel Big Six is in




On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Philharpn@xxxxxxx wrote:


The Seydel Big Six is designed to be played in second position and so has
just enough notes to do that.

As I recall. there was a time when you could get a box of Cracker- Jack and if you were lucky (REAL lucky) you might get a small 4 hole harp stamped 'made in occupied Japan' as a prize.


I always thought this Little Lady sized harp was too small (for even a kid's mouth), and that 4 holes weren't quite enough. But I set about to coming up with tunes that could be played on one. Then I got the bright idea to build a 5 hole model from a Piccolo Harp. The harp was bad in the upper range and using hacksaw & files, I cut down the plates. Then sliced some out of the comb and re-glued it. Then made covers out of strong brass filter screen. Then several coats of paint on the screen, and voila.

The benefit was that the Piccolo is a lower pitch than a Little Lady type.

This harp was larger and had a better hole spacing. I set about to coming up with tunes for the 5 hole model, but soon realized that 6 holes would be better, and was all set to make a 6 hole model when I discovered the special tuning that I use today and never got around to it.

It came to my attention that someone MADE a 5 hole model back a long time ago and Al Smith has several of them that he plays. I understand that Suzuki or someone now makes a wee little black model and silver model... both with 8? holes.

I think it's a great idea, and will probably buy a couple.

smokey-joe

Somebody on the list once said that most harmonica players really didn't
need a 10-hole harmonica because most of them never played anything above the 6th
hole anyway. Well, somebody at Seydel must have heard this remark and taken
it to heart --urr harp.


The key of C Big Six is designed to be played in second position in the key
of G and the notes provide a complete mixolydian mode (play G to G on the white
keys of the piano).


The other issue, about the ubiquitous key of C -- It's everywhere, it's
everywhere, it's everywhere.


I thought this was explained by one (or more) of the more knowledgeable
sources on Harp-L, perhaps even someone connected to the harmonica industry as to
why C is the most common key.


It's register fits in the middle of the range of harps -- not too high and
not too low. (Cf. Middle C on the piano, too?!)


For draw bends, this means that the bends are not as "deep" (and a difficult
to manage) as the lower pitched harmonicas.


Perhaps there is another reason C is so common. Anyone who knows the least
bit about music knows that C is the only major key that has no flats or sharps
-- which only serve to confuse people trying to figure out music anyway.


This is a favorite piano key for that reason. All you have to do is just play
the white keys, ignore the black keys and you're in the key of C (A minor is
another bunch of broccoli and will be discussed in another post).


Before the advent of the recent Low tune harps, harmonicas were tuned, low to
high:


G, A, Bb, C, D,E,F,G

or if you prefer all 12

G, Ab, A.Bb, B -- C -- Db, D, Eb, E, F, F#
(so you can see C is almost in the middle)

There might be another reason why C is the most common key. Maybe it sells
the best, even in harp lines that offer 7 keys or even 12 keys (without the
extra Low and High tuned harps).


The only complaint I ever heard about the C harps is that they are difficult
-- some say virtually impossible -- to blow bend on the top end. That is my newbies are urged to try A or G harps when first working on executing blow
bends.


Now I suspect that if Seydel sells a few thousand Big Sixes in the key of C,
the firm may offer other keys. Or maybe take custom orders, as it does for
some of its other lines.


Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and all the holidays in-between. Or
Seasons Greetings.
Phil Lloyd








In a message dated 12/18/07 9:08:40 AM, lavoie@xxxxxxxxx writes:



FJM,
You are so right. The C is such a high octave key, that is harder to bend,
because the reeds are shorter than a Bb,A,Ab,G. I always carry my G for
daily playing. If you can bend notes on an A, and G harmonica, the odds are
in your favor to master bends on most keys.
I would definitely would buy a Big Six if it came out in the key of G. I
love the sound of the Mouth Organ in this key.
Stay tuned!
Mark LaVoie


-----Original Message-----
From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of fjm
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:05 PM
To: h-l
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Seydel Big Six is in
Key of C. Why is it that all commemoratives novelty and odd harmonicas
are in C? Sure F# would be worse but Bb An or G would be a whole lot
more useful. I was all ready to buy the Big Six until I saw the big C
on the key signature. fjm
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