[Harp-L] Beanstock 2007!



It was another memorable Bean Blossom Blues Festival, steller beginning harp seminar by Bushman Musics' John Hall,  Adam Gussow and Jason Ricci fielded questions and patiently and methodically presented a terrific advanced harp techniques discussion (2 1/2 hours!)  Powerful harp from "Naz" of Elliot and the untouchables, Naz also performed a harp duel with Adam backed by Jason Riccis' band with some great vocals from Shelly Nazerenko.  Of course Jason made everyone forget the rain and played on well beyond closing.  Gordon Bonham, Chicago Playboys, Carlyn Lindsy and Snake Doctor, Conrail Saints, Harper, and Gene Deer all played to a soggy and appreciative crowd.  Add in a harp gear flea market, beer tasting, Bean and cornbread pitch-in, harmonica contest and countless jams with P T Gazell and Adam Gussow sitting in and you have another outstanding event.  It did rain, a lot, but nobody seemed to care and I didn't notice anyone leaving early.  John Hall always puts a lot into his ev
ents and I know everyone appreciated his hard work and long hours!



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>    1. Re: Ghost Notes (Paul Routledge)
>    2. Re: Re: criticism (Larry Marks)
>    3. How many? (Bob Laughlin)
>    4. Re: How many? (billhines4@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>    5. out-of-box JI? (john kuzloski)
>    6. how many (Michael Rubin)
>    7. Mark Hummel/James Harman Seminar in Frederick, MD
>       (blyburn@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>    8. Re: Mark Hummel/James Harman Seminar in Frederick, MD
>       (Paul Routledge)
>    9. Re: how many (mark wilson)
>   10. New tunes posted (Trip Henderson)
>   11. Re: Brooklyn Harmonica Club (Trip Henderson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:25:41 +0100
> From: Paul Routledge <kingleyharp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Ghost Notes
> To: jazmaan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Harp L L <Harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> Unfortunately the link doesn't seem to work properly.
> When you click on the download on that page of Hush Hush, you get a  
> "page not found" notice.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 9 Sep 2007, at 21:31, jazmaan@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> > You can listen to the "Hush Hush" trick here:
> >
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/4912/difference.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- BiscuitBoy714@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What choo mean "Hush Hush" trick?? I've  learned more little jabs  
> >> here than I
> >> ever thought possible. Some of them I  did but didn't have a name  
> >> for, but
> >> most of them I just haven't stumbled upon  yet.
> >>      Thanx in advance
> >>         Randy
> >>
> >> In a message dated 9/9/2007 2:40:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> dmf273@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Now  please try a Hering Vintage through the same rig.  All of a  
> >> sudden those
> >>  bum notes are
> >> perfectly in tune and it sounds like you've got some kind of   
> >> octave doubler
> >> or harmonizer in your
> >> rig!  Your sound is now  FAT!   Maybe you can even learn to  
> >> manipulate those
> >> "ghost notes"  like
> >> with the "Hush Hush" trick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ************************************** See what's new at http:// 
> >> www.aol.com
> >>
> >
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:56:49 -0700
> From: Larry Marks <larry.marks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: criticism
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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> 
> I am decidedly on the side of those who believe that criticism is useful 
> for all of us on the list.
> 
> I agree that if you make a public performance, you have already decided 
> by default that you are prepared for criticism. If you are an artist and 
> you have confidence in what you are doing, then a negative critique 
> shouldn't matter to you. If you don't have confidence in what you are 
> doing, then please don't inflict your stuff on the rest of us.
> 
> For all the others, a detailed and specific criticism can both inform 
> and stir our own feelings.
> 
> I further agree that Elizabeth's response, while it was friendly, is 
> none the less a form of ad hominem attack; that is, it attacks the 
> person or hir actions, not the validity of hir arguments.
> 
> 
> Larry Marks, Really Senior Software Geek
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:46:25 -0700
> From: "Bob Laughlin" <rlaughlin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] How many?
> To: "harp-l" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <003c01c7f397$d63901e0$0400a8c0@lazor>
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> 
> How many of us would be encouraged to play, even to excel at harp, while in the 
> learning process, if all we heard were negative comments concerning our style of 
> playing. 
> 
> How about if we heard that someone somewhere had heard us play, and was 
> spreading it around town that we "sucked", and that our style of playing "made 
> them vomit"?
> 
> Apart from all of the praise and admiration I get at work, even from my 
> superiors, and from their superiors, as well as many of the customers who happen 
> upon me while playing, either in the men's room (great acoustics,,I've got to 
> bring an H2 or H4 in there sometime), or in the aisles, when a tune comes on the 
> PA that I happen to have a harp for (I usually carry at least two, if not four 
> on me at all times,,D, Eb, E, and F),,,
> 
> apart from all the kids who grin when I play for them,,
> 
> apart from the customers who bring me CD's of their favorite harp player,,
> 
> apart from all the other employees who get a kick out of my playing,,
> 
> there's this one girl in the deli, a very LOUD girl, who tells me abruptly to 
> "put that harmonica where the sun don't shine",,or that it makes her "vomit" 
> whenever she hears my playing,,
> 
> I KNOW my playing isn't that bad. I've never had anything but return invitations 
> when playing with any band, or artist I've played with.  I'm timely. I'm frugal. 
> I know how to accompany tastefully. I wait my turn. I create good tone, 
> exciting, steady and innovative licks, and have decent vibrato.
> 
> but she just can't stand harmonica, for some reason.
> 
> So I adjust, for her sake, and allow that somewhere in her past she may have 
> been traumatized by a harmonica player, or some musician, or someone or 
> something associated with music, or with harmonica in specific. I make 
> accomodations for her, and avoid playing around her. 
> 
> I've tried approaching her in jest, saying something like,,"Hey,,ya wanna hear a 
> tune?", knowing what her response would be. Once while I was outside, and her 
> hubby/boyfriend was dropping her off, I said, jokingly, "She always loves it 
> when I play my harmonica". He responded by saying "You should make her a CD!", 
> laughing. He obviously was aware of her distaste for the harmonica. His humor 
> was refreshing. 
> 
> She seems to be softening, compared to her strong attitude of disgust at first, 
> and we banter and joust a bit when we see each other now. It's become a running 
> gag, but I still wouldn't play if she were in earshot, out of respect for her 
> feelings, right or wrong. I don't have to have that freedom in order to feel 
> good about myself or my playing. There are enough of the others, who do 
> appreciate my playing. I make it a bridge of introduction at times, and bring 
> music into the store. 
> 
> If everyone were like that girl,,I don't know if I'd really want to continue 
> playing, at all. I mean, I'm not out to irritate, but to entertain. I'm having 
> fun, I enjoy playing, and I'm hoping I can spread the fun.
> 
> I know I'm confident in my playing, at the level I play. I picked up my first 
> harp in the mid-sixties. I know I can coax some good things out of my harp, no 
> doubt. 
> 
> but I also know that if there weren't so much support, all along the way, it may 
> have turned out differently. Decent and palatable playing doesn't happen 
> overnight. It takes time, and some encouragement, either internal, or external, 
> or both.
> 
> As to youtube,,sure,,criticism helps, but mostly if it has an instructional 
> element, a positive suggestion, and not just "eeeeeeuwww,,it makes me vomit,,". 
> Or "did you hear that guy,,,he's creeepy",,,
> 
> To each his own, as far as taste is concerned. Chaqu'un son gout.
> 
> It's a big world. We really don't style police to tell us what we may or may not 
> enjoy. We just need to know our options. That's what demonstrations, examples, 
> exhibitions are for. Here's the real deal, as I see it. Like it or don't, and if 
> you don't, that's fine too.
> 
> BL
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:45:27 +0000
> From: billhines4@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] How many?
> To: "harp-l" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> 	
> <091020071545.13758.46E566970000D4FB000035BE2200761438CB9C0A0207080404070D@comca
> st.net>
> 	
> 
> Well, really often the problem is NOT that the person doesn't like a particular 
> instrument. It could be that they just don't want to hear music right then, or 
> that type of music. They didn't sign up for that when they went grocery 
> shopping, got on the bus, went to the library, went to work, etc.
> 
> Some people just have a habit of putting music into people's faces whether they 
> like it or not (not unlike smoking, aside from the health issues being much more 
> grave for the latter). Some folks learn to play harp and just bust it out in 
> every situation - on buses, public places and on and on, without realizing how 
> annoying that can be to others. 
> 
> Maybe someone is under stress, just lost a loved one, has some other thing on 
> their mind, or just trying to concentrate on what they are doing at the time, or 
> just doesn't want to hear music at that point while they are shopping or doing 
> whatever. 
> 
> It can be very annoying to have it forced upon you, so given how *easy* it is 
> for harp players to do this given our instrument is a "pocket" instrument, we 
> should respect that and be sensitive. No matter how many folks say they "love 
> it" or dance around when you bust the harp out in the grocery store, there are 
> probably  just as many silent ones that  are annoyed - no matter how good you 
> are. Imagine if kazoo players and others did this. I think it gives our 
> instrument and "harmonica players" a bad name in many cases.
> 
> Bill Hines
> Hershey, PA
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Bob Laughlin" <rlaughlin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > How many of us would be encouraged to play, even to excel at harp, while in 
> the 
> > learning process, if all we heard were negative comments concerning our style 
> of 
> > playing. 
> > 
> > How about if we heard that someone somewhere had heard us play, and was 
> > spreading it around town that we "sucked", and that our style of playing "made 
> > them vomit"?
> > 
> > Apart from all of the praise and admiration I get at work, even from my 
> > superiors, and from their superiors, as well as many of the customers who 
> happen 
> > upon me while playing, either in the men's room (great acoustics,,I've got to 
> > bring an H2 or H4 in there sometime), or in the aisles, when a tune comes on 
> the 
> > PA that I happen to have a harp for (I usually carry at least two, if not four 
> > on me at all times,,D, Eb, E, and F),,,
> > 
> > apart from all the kids who grin when I play for them,,
> > 
> > apart from the customers who bring me CD's of their favorite harp player,,
> > 
> > apart from all the other employees who get a kick out of my playing,,
> > 
> > there's this one girl in the deli, a very LOUD girl, who tells me abruptly to 
> > "put that harmonica where the sun don't shine",,or that it makes her "vomit" 
> > whenever she hears my playing,,
> > 
> > I KNOW my playing isn't that bad. I've never had anything but return 
> invitations 
> > when playing with any band, or artist I've played with.  I'm timely. I'm 
> frugal. 
> > I know how to accompany tastefully. I wait my turn. I create good tone, 
> > exciting, steady and innovative licks, and have decent vibrato.
> > 
> > but she just can't stand harmonica, for some reason.
> > 
> > So I adjust, for her sake, and allow that somewhere in her past she may have 
> > been traumatized by a harmonica player, or some musician, or someone or 
> > something associated with music, or with harmonica in specific. I make 
> > accomodations for her, and avoid playing around her. 
> > 
> > I've tried approaching her in jest, saying something like,,"Hey,,ya wanna hear 
> a 
> > tune?", knowing what her response would be. Once while I was outside, and her 
> > hubby/boyfriend was dropping her off, I said, jokingly, "She always loves it 
> > when I play my harmonica". He responded by saying "You should make her a CD!", 
> > laughing. He obviously was aware of her distaste for the harmonica. His humor 
> > was refreshing. 
> > 
> > She seems to be softening, compared to her strong attitude of disgust at 
> first, 
> > and we banter and joust a bit when we see each other now. It's become a 
> running 
> > gag, but I still wouldn't play if she were in earshot, out of respect for her 
> > feelings, right or wrong. I don't have to have that freedom in order to feel 
> > good about myself or my playing. There are enough of the others, who do 
> > appreciate my playing. I make it a bridge of introduction at times, and bring 
> > music into the store. 
> > 
> > If everyone were like that girl,,I don't know if I'd really want to continue 
> > playing, at all. I mean, I'm not out to irritate, but to entertain. I'm having 
> > fun, I enjoy playing, and I'm hoping I can spread the fun.
> > 
> > I know I'm confident in my playing, at the level I play. I picked up my first 
> > harp in the mid-sixties. I know I can coax some good things out of my harp, no 
> > doubt. 
> > 
> > but I also know that if there weren't so much support, all along the way, it 
> may 
> > have turned out differently. Decent and palatable playing doesn't happen 
> > overnight. It takes time, and some encouragement, either internal, or 
> external, 
> > or both.
> > 
> > As to youtube,,sure,,criticism helps, but mostly if it has an instructional 
> > element, a positive suggestion, and not just "eeeeeeuwww,,it makes me 
> vomit,,". 
> > Or "did you hear that guy,,,he's creeepy",,,
> > 
> > To each his own, as far as taste is concerned. Chaqu'un son gout.
> > 
> > It's a big world. We really don't style police to tell us what we may or may 
> not 
> > enjoy. We just need to know our options. That's what demonstrations, examples, 
> > exhibitions are for. Here's the real deal, as I see it. Like it or don't, and 
> if 
> > you don't, that's fine too.
> > 
> > BL
> > _______________________________________________
> > Harp-L is sponsored by SPAH, http://www.spah.org
> > Harp-L@xxxxxxxxxx
> > http://harp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/harp-l
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: john kuzloski <jkuzloski@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] out-of-box JI?
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <388039.15758.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Any out-of-box JI besides Hering Vintage?
>   Thanks.
>   --John K.
> 
>        
> ---------------------------------
> Luggage? GPS? Comic books? 
> Check out fitting  gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:53:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Michael Rubin <rubinmichael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] how many
> To: d d d <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <750583.62415.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> It is my opinion that as long as you are outdoors and no one else is on stage, 
> blow your harp. I would not play in a residential neighborhood after 10 pm or 
> before 9 am. I would not blow it on a bus or in a building without mutual 
> consent from those around me.  An exception may be in a bar.
>   Michael Rubin
>   Michaelrubinharmonica.com
>    
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:56:09 +0000
> From: blyburn@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Harp-L] Mark Hummel/James Harman Seminar in Frederick, MD
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 	
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> >
> 	
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> Mark Hummel and James Harman will be teaching a seminar in Frederick MD on the 
> evening of Sept. 17.  Please e-mail me if you're interested in this great 
> opportunity to learn from 2 fantastic pros!
> 
> This event is organized by the Harmonica Players Organization of Frederick.
> 
> Bryan Lyburn
> Frederick, MD
> (301)514-5845
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:05:12 +0100
> From: Paul Routledge <kingleyharp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Mark Hummel/James Harman Seminar in Frederick,
> 	MD
> To: blyburn@xxxxxxxxxxx, Harp L L <Harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <DC3AE87E-A0B1-4CB4-A1A1-D28149A2101A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> It's times like this that I wish I lived in the States!
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 10 Sep 2007, at 17:56, blyburn@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> > Mark Hummel and James Harman will be teaching a seminar in  
> > Frederick MD on the evening of Sept. 17.  Please e-mail me if  
> > you're interested in this great opportunity to learn from 2  
> > fantastic pros!
> >
> > This event is organized by the Harmonica Players Organization of  
> > Frederick.
> >
> > Bryan Lyburn
> > Frederick, MD
> > (301)514-5845
> > _______________________________________________
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> www.kingleyharp.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:08:31 -0700
> From: mark wilson <markwilson53@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] how many
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <7E2B5C65-4C55-4F16-8A4F-ED7AE0854890@xxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Michael Rubin wrote:
> 
> > It is my opinion that as long as you are outdoors and no one else  
> > is on stage, blow your harp.
> 
> 
> I'm big on mixing things up so my practice sessions don't get too  
> monotonous or boring.  I take it outdoors
> all the time.  I have one spot in a shopping center attached to the  
> UCI campus where I practice 4 or 5 hours a week.
> I bring a low Eb harp, and sit next to a fountain which drowns out  
> the sound of the harmonica.  Unless someone is right
> next to me, they can't hear a thing.  If someone walking by sees me,  
> they'll usually smile.  The small kids will walk right up
> and stare, and I'll usually play something for them like Twinkle  
> Twinkle Little Star. The parents love it.  Musicians quite
> often come up and start a conversation. I've met several other  
> harmonica players playing outside.
> 
> When I'm working on something specific, I usually do the grunt work  
> at home, than take it out of the house once I get burned
> out or start losing concentration.  Once I get out, the fresh air,  
> the people, and the new atmosphere get me going again..
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:49:24 -0400
> From: "Trip Henderson" <trip.tunes@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] New tunes posted
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 	<10b0b7e30709101249g4e6bec10t9f18b4fe5b24e5f8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Greetings friends,
> 
> For those interested, I've uploaded three new songs to my MySpace page.
> 
> http://www.myspace.com/triphenderson
> 
> Nothing fancy or mind blowing here, just harmonica played in the pre-Levy
> style.  These are live recordings done with my AT 822 stereo mic into a Sony
> DAT recorder, I love these mics!  I'm joined on one number, The Saturday
> Night Waltz by Randy Weinstein who plays twin harp with me in my band The
> Brooklyn Corn Dodgers. You may have also heard Randy with Hazmat Modine,
> another twin harp band from NYC.
> 
> Trip Henderson
> 
> "If you come in loose, you play good notes, if you act just a little bit
> foolish, you get good ideas." ~ Charlie Parker
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:51:43 -0400
> From: "Trip Henderson" <trip.tunes@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] Re: Brooklyn Harmonica Club
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 	<10b0b7e30709101351s748b4d2dx6e061f929e86c7f2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252
> 
> Hey Zvi,
> 
> FYI, I'll be teaching my annual Harp Workshop at the Park Slope Brooklyn Old
> Time and Bluegrass Music Jamboree on September 15th at noon.
> 
> Here's the schedule of workshops.
> 
> *12:30 - 1:40 ? Workshops - 1st session*
> 
> Harmonica ? Trip Henderson and Marcus Millus
> 
> Meet the Banjo (Clawhammer) ? Mike Cala & Pat Conte
> 
> Ragtime Guitar ? David Laibman
> 
> Fiddle ? Rafe Stefanini
> 
> *1:50 - 3:00 ? Workshops - 2nd session*
> 
> Fiddle ? Bill Christophersen
> 
> Clogging / Appalachian-style Percussive Dance ? Mary Beth Yakoubian
> 
> Mountain Harmony Singing ? Ginny Hawker & Tracy Schwarz
> 
> Mandolin ? Mark Farrell & Bob Green
> 
> Joining me this year will be Marcus Milius whom I had the pleasure of
> hearing for the first time yesterday. He's playing with Miguel Weissman,
> Randy Weinstein and myself in the newly formed New York Harmonica Ensemble -
> we'll be making our debut on Oct. 8th. Bring down the club - Marcus and I
> will be focusing on twin harp strategies.
> 
> Ciao for now,
> 
> Trip
> 
> 
> 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 00:02:43 -0400
> > From: Zvi Aranoff <zaranoff@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [Harp-L] Brooklyn Harmonica Club
> > To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Message-ID: <BAY122-DAV1186EF2192E6AFE67034F8C6C70@xxxxxxx>
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> >        format=flowed
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > We're starting a harmonica club in Brooklyn, NY.
> >
> > The purpose of the Club is to meet fellow harp enthusiasts ? for jam
> > sessions, sharing ideas, learning off of each other..
> >
> > We have a space to meet, and as of now we have a bunch of harp
> > players who are interested. We also have a few guitar players.
> >
> > We haven't had the first meet yet. We'll probably have it in a week
> > or two. Right now we're getting names and coordinating people's
> > schedules.
> >
> > If you're interested in joining, please drop me a line at
> > zaranoff@xxxxxxxxxxxx Obviously there's no charge. Purely for the
> > love of it.
> >
> > Best.
> >
> > Zvi Aranoff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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