Re: [Harp-L] YouTube - AFTER YOU'VE GONE-- shtreiml

["hazcon" <hazcon@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Have to agree with Rick and John
When Randy first posted the link i had a look and thought Gawd this is 
awful......no tone,a million mindless notes a minute and as Rick(the aussie 
one)  said
'noodlin'
       Personally this stuff could put one off Harmonica.
To paraphrase some famous classical musician(talking about Hendrix)) "I wish 
i could play like that ,then i never would"
Meaning I guess that you have to admire the sheer technical ability and 
musical knowledge that Shtreiml displays but to what end?
        But of course each,as always.to their own,the blues gave birth to 
Jazz, but somewhere along the line the connection has been broken and 
endless repetitive scales ,modes etc seem to have replaced the soul aspect 
of music.
        But the worst thing,(imho) lousy tone.........that was campfire 
harmonica on steroids.
Rick
in NZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John F. Potts" <hvyj@xxxxxxx>
To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:36 PM
Subject: [Harp-L] YouTube - AFTER YOU'VE GONE-- shtreiml


> I don't have enough musical knowledge to qualify me to assess  proficiency 
> with jazz changes, but i do know a little about groove--- 
> and however proficiently this player gets around on the harmonica, 
> overblows and all, the notes he is playing have absolutely no 
> relationship to the groove, beat or meter.  His note selection may be 
> very sophisticated, BUT he is playing those notes without any  consistent 
> relationship to the beat. He is not putting notes on (or  off) the beats 
> or anywhere in any sort of variation in relationship  to the beat. There 
> is no meter or syncopation . He is not maintaining  any sort of groove 
> which is why Rick says this sounds like doodling  to him.
>
> Listen to Diana Krall sing.  Much of her material is in the style of  jazz 
> standards, with no back beat.  But her placement of the notes  she sings 
> on or in relation to the beat is mesmerizing.  None of that  sort of note 
> placement going on here.  The note selection may be  sophisticated and he 
> playing technique highly proficient, but there  is a total disregard for 
> meter and groove.
>
> Randy may be right, but Rick isn't wrong.
>
> JP
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