Re: [Harp-L] Re: 2 Questions from newbie ~ embouchre



Abner,

I'm very pleased to learn that this stuff has been helpful to you. I'm self taught, and if i would have had anyone to explain this stuff to me when i was starting out, learning would have been so much quicker and easier. So, I'm happy to share.

Be sure to check the follow up post which explains the importance of making a large air aperture. That may not help you while you are still learning to get single notes, but it will dramatically improve your tone after you are able to play clean single notes consistently.

Btw,remember it is VERY important to ALWAYS produce all air pressure from the diaphragm, NOT from the lips, mouth or throat. Be sure to do this EVERY TIME you play or practice.

Good luck!

Best regards,

JP


On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Abner Galdos wrote:


thank you sir, I just saved and copied this for continuing reference..
please keep them coming.
I'm still learning how to do single notes and taps is about as far as I can get..


abner (blueyes, an infant to the blues)
----- Original Message -----
From: John F. Potts
To: Blueharp1@xxxxxxx
Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:44 PM
Subject: [Harp-L] Re: 2 Questions from newbie ~ embouchre

Jeff,

Yes, you're missing something.  The inside of the mouth just past
the edge of the lip is in contact with and holds the harp to form the
seal.  Because you pout your lips out forward and put the front of
the harmonica IN your mouth, it is the area inside of your mouth just
past the lip line that grips the harmonica.  You are basically
wrapping your lips around the harp, so it is the INSIDE of your mouth
just past your lips which makes contact with the cover plates of the
harp.   Of course, the corners of your mouth stay put when you pout
your lips forward to make a "fish mouth" so at the corners you can't
wrap you lips around the harmonica, (which will extend past the
corners of the mouth on either side anyway if the harmonica is of
normal size).  So, at the corners, the front of the comb rests
against your lip area at that location since it cannot get it in past
the lip line.  But the rest of your lips should be OUTSIDE of the
harmonica with the inside of the mouth just past the lip line
gripping the harmonica and forming the seal.  Does this make sense?

If you ever watch Christelle's videos, sometimes right before she
plays she pouts her lips out, like she's about to give someone a
kiss. It's not necessary to do this until you actually put the harp
in your mouth but she seems to be getting her embouchure in position
ahead of time for some reason.

If you go to the "Harpgear" site and click on "acoustic tone"
there's a pretty good explanation of embouchure with pictures
illustrating what I've been trying to describe.

JP

You asked:

Okay, maybe just me, and if it is I'd like to be informed and
educated ~  but
"with the lips being actually not in contact with the harmonica
except at
the corners of the mouth" is making no sense to me. How can the upper
and lower
lips NOT be in contact with the harp "except at the corners" without
comprising  your "seal" and inviting a huge influx of air both above
and below the
harp? Am I missing something here?
Jeff G
Denver CO



In a message dated 1/15/2009 11:18:58 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
harp-l-request@xxxxxxxxxx writes:

If a lip purse player can get the front of the harp in against the
corners of the mouth, tilt the holes down slightly, drop the  lower
jaw and keep it relaxed, and produce air from the  diaphragm, ALL
notes will be easier to play, tone will be  consistently deeper and
fatter and you won't have to adjust  lip position. It also helps to
make as large an opening with  the lips as physically possible
consistent with getting a  single note, which requires that the inside
of the  mouth adjacent to the edge of the lips grip the harmonica with
the lips being actually not in contact with the harmonica except  at
the corners of the mouth--this has sometimes been referred  to as
"fish mouth".

JP
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