[Harp-L] 5751



Interesting tube. It has the same gain factor as a 12AT7, which is 70, but  
much more aggressive and musical. There are many NOS tube sellers, what  
their terms are plus price are most important. If they wont take back noisy  
tubes I wont buy from them. I test the whole lot when they come in.
 
 
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Jam Night  Etiquette (Bill)
2. Re: Jam Night Etiquette  (10hole)
3. Re: Now THIS is great (Dennis Gruenling content)  (Ev630)
4. Re: Tax Time Sale (Rick Davis)
5.  Possible trades? (Big Steve Blues)
6. Re: Throat Vibrato Pulse  Speed (icemanle@xxxxxxx)
7. Re: B-Radical Sighting  (icemanle@xxxxxxx)
8. Re: Now THIS is great (Dennis Gruenling  content)
(icemanle@xxxxxxx)
9. Re:  Dennis Gruenling plays Miles (icemanle@xxxxxxx)
10. Re: I thought  Shakespeare wrote Juke? (icemanle@xxxxxxx)
11. check it out....  (icemanle@xxxxxxx)
12. Jason Riccis setup (THOMAS  FIACCO)


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Message:  1
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:54:01 -0000
From: "Bill"  <bill.eborn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Jam Night  Etiquette
To: "Splash!" <celtiac@xxxxxxxxx>,  <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:  <575F69B9A3D44BE79E12C3690A5D02BA@Birdhead>
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Do we not generally find that people who are secure  in their musicianship 
don't feel the need to throw their weight  around.  As in Boogaloo's law 
'egotistical behaviour exists in  inverse proportion to ability'....


----- Original Message -----  
From: "Splash!" <celtiac@xxxxxxxxx>
To:  <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:10  PM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Jam Night Etiquette


>I was thinking  that there would be a guitarist in town having a very hard 
>time  fingerpicking the blues, and touting the new nickname,  "Lefty."
>
> That's one reason why I like to travel with my little  Kalamazoo and a 
> SM58. My rig, my thin puckered tone. <grin> And  almost always they try 
and 
> insist that I use the house rigs.   Scroom.  Just plug my mic cord into 
the 
> snake,  OK?
>
> Splash!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  If that had happened at the Jam I go to, the guy would have been 
carried  
>> out
>> and taken to hospital to have his guitar  surgically removed............
>  



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Message: 2
Date: Sun,  14 Feb 2010 14:32:29 -0500
From: "10hole"  <10hole@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Jam Night Etiquette
To:  <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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That one's tough. I think my initial response would  have been to knock the 
guy out on the spot... However...
I'd love for  that to happen and for me to be calm enough to play it cool 
just until he  started a solo and un plug
him just as he started gettin into it. of course  at that point I'd have to 
pack up and go.

scooter


>  If that had happened at the Jam I go to, the guy would have been carried 
 
> out
> and taken to hospital to have his guitar surgically  removed............
>
> Chris
>
> Can you top this  one?
>
> I was laying back mid-song as the guitar player was  soloing and this guy 
> by
> the name of Chad (part of the local  clique) walks in to the club and 
comes
> right up on the crowded stage  and says to me "I need and amp" and 
proceeds
> to unplug my mic and  plugged in his guitar.
> Needless to say I don't go to the Daytona Beach  Blues Society Jams any
> longer.
> I didn't protest to anyone  because I knew it was a lost battle from the
> start. I quit the Society  and stopped going to their jams. It was their 
> loss
> because I  was a big supporter of the DBBS, but  I was just a "Snowbird" 
>  and
> never was" made" into the clique.
>
> Found plenty of  other jams in the area with musicians who are a lot
> friendlier and  accepting and having much more fun.
> From my observations  though,  Harp Players that sing get much more 
respect
> than those who  don't.
>
> Paul
>     B-Radical
> Honk  A Harrison
>  



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Message: 3
Date: Mon,  15 Feb 2010 07:13:36 +1100
From: Ev630  <eviltweed@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Now THIS is great (Dennis  Gruenling content)
To: icemanle@xxxxxxx
Cc:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<b985a2fe1002141213x690cc27dt5cc112f3677913b4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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And TELLINGLY it's a well-known "blues  traditionalist" who doesn't hate OBs
and famously did a tribute album to  Little Walter. Talk about cognitive
dissonance for some of our more rusted  on OB fans.

Unfortunately for Dennis Gruenling, the fact that he has  learned every lick
in Little Walter's catalogue counts against him because,  as an OB proponent
recently wrote on another forum, "Of course if you just  sit around and copy
little walter licks then you're just a copy cat and not  a musician at all."

;)



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:44 AM,  Ev630 <eviltweed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> That's why I posted it.  The exception that proves the rule.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15,  2010 at 1:48 AM, <icemanle@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>   cool fat tone - 6 hole OB seamlessly used, sounding balanced and  
equal.
>> See, it can be  done.
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original  Message-----
>> From: Ev630 <eviltweed@xxxxxxxxx>
>>  To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 8:27 pm
>>  Subject: [Harp-L] Now THIS is great (Dennis Gruenling  content)
>>
>>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMNGpC0pitg&feature=related
>>
>>
>


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Message:  4
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:53:43 -0700
From: Rick Davis  <bluesharpamps@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Tax Time Sale
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<fac5da301002140653u507395bdubeb3b664de1107d9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Gary, I agree with you that the 5751  tube has great potential for harp
amps.  It has been my favorite  preamp tube for years.  You can get a very
nice sounding NOS JAN  Philips 5751 for about $20 from Tube Depot in Memphis
(or on their  website).  The tube has 70 percent of the gain potential of a
12AX7  and a very warm, musical tone.  Good call.

-Rick Davis
The  Blues Harp Amps Blog
http://www.bluesharpamps.blogspot.com/

On Sat,  Feb 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM, <SONNYTONE@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>  I  will be using a NOS 5751 as  first preamp, a tube I have grown to  
think
> has great
> potential for harp  amps.


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Message: 5
Date:  Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:24:41 -0500
From: Big Steve Blues  <bigsteveblues@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Possible trades?
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<f52a96d71002141224v4f60d15ambfb1bd4a2d62bbae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Mouth-Organ-istos (and -istas,  too):

I MIGHT (read: mayyyyyyybe) be interested in TRADING a really  nice 
Kalamazoo
Model 2 for a good quality mic or two.

(Feel free to  make straight cash offers, but they'd have to be pretty sweet
for me to  consider them.)

Here's the deal: the amp is in REALLY good shape;  there's a little bit of
the tolex at the bottom that's loose at a seam, but  it's a small spot and
stable otherwise.

The amp has had a 3-prong  cord professionally installed by a local amp
tech/custom builder. He really  knows his stuff, and this amp is super-clean
and functions  perfectly.

Anyone out there reading this who doesn't know about the  legendary tone of
these little monsters can simply browse the list; I know  I'm preaching to
the choir here.

The ONLY reason I might trade this  amp (or sell it for a mic plus cash or
something) is because I have another  amp that was modded by Gary Onofrio
(Sonny Jr) on its way
to my house as  I type.

Anyway, I LOVE the sound of my Shure 533SA, so vintage dynamic  mics with
volume controls will definitely be considered.

CR? CM?  Probably not crystal or ceramic, as I cannot afford to trade the 
amp
for a  mic that could go kaput with one unfortunate drop.
The right vintage one,  with big bottom end is a possibility if I can make a
deal and still have a  good spare or two in my kit.

I'd also be into trading my Kalamazoo and  any of the other gear I have
listed  here

http://harp-l.org/pipermail/harp-l/2010-February/msg00465.html

for  vintage mics, a Lone Wolf delay or whatever else you might dream  up,
harp-gear wise. Let me know!

Please write me off-list and throw  your ideas my way... prices in my gear
sale are REALLY negotiable now, as I  just lost a job.

Yes, even my 533SA and my Astatic/CM mic are up for  grabs for the right
price or trade deal.

Blues-ically,

Big  Steve


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Message: 6
Date:  Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:29:47 -0500
From: icemanle@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  [Harp-L] Throat Vibrato Pulse Speed
To: samblancato@xxxxxxxxxxx,  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <8CC7B994B77E7BC-6748-2E2F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


this was one piece of technique to  work on for a total control of the 
instrument. 

Try to see how slow you  can pulse - when you get it down to once/second, 
it will reveal the muscles  needed to accomplish a single pulse. Now, try to 
focus on exactly only what is  needed, eliminating any bundled habitual 
extra musculature. With this  understanding, next try to relax as much as 
possible, minimizing the muscle  impulses needed until it is as natural as 
breathing. Then, rebuild, starting  to increase your pulse speed slowly.

You may reach a ceiling to just  how fast you can control the pulse. Don't 
spend time trying to crash through  your ceiling. Accept the fact that that 
is your limitation at this point  (sometimes the individual has a muscle 
limitation - for instance, I can't  sideways tongue switch very fast while 
others are like machine guns). Then  roll this into your technique to be used 
w/out much effort and see how far you  get creating your own sound. 

You will find a measured controlled  vibrato and also an unmeasured one - 
both can be used effectively. 

I  find a slow measured one is very comfortable for me in a lot of cases 
and  works towards my individual  sound.








-----Original Message-----
From:  sam Blancato <samblancato@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Harp-L  <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 12:19 am
Subject:  [Harp-L] Throat Vibrato Pulse Speed


Hey Folks,

For those of  you who can do throat vibrato I have a question.  As you know,
when  playing a note or a chord with throat vibrato (TV), you play it with  
a
'pulse' (a tempo) at which you modulate the pitch.  Another way to  say this
is that you cause the pitch to waver at a certain speed.  And  you also
probably know that the TV sounds more effective when you can  control the
pulse so that this matches the tempo of the song you're  playing.  

So what I'm wondering is what kind of exercises I can  do to develop a fast
pulse and more than this, to get any speed I  want.  On a song with a 4/4
time at a metronome tempo of 92 I can get  a 16th note tempo.  That's about
as fast as I can pulse TV.  This  sounds fast but it really isn't.  It's not
that slow either and I can  match TV tempos to a lot of songs up to that
speed.  I'd like to be  able to do it faster, maybe 16ths at 108 or 112.  

Has anybody  worked on this with drills and what not?  Has anybody tried to
work on  this specific thing as opposed to just developing greater speed and
control  over time without conscious effort?  When I try to get 16ths over  
92
it seems like my muscles won't go any faster.  Sometimes I wonder  if this 
is
some sort of set thing, like there's a threshold one can't get  past.

Sam Blancato, Pittsburgh  

P.S.  Over-blowers  can ignore this inquiry.  I'm sure I wouldn't be able to
appreciate  your crazy, twisted perspective on anything; it would probably
give me a  head ache too.  And anyway, I wouldn't want to take you away from
your  Schoenberg records and tongue yoga and what ever other M.C.  
Escher-like
stuff you all do.     




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Message: 7
Date:  Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:35:59 -0500
From: icemanle@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  [Harp-L] B-Radical Sighting
To: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx,  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <8CC7B9A2907C050-6748-2F02@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


I'm further impressed by M.  Peloquin's revealing that his diatonic solo 
w/pretty good OB's was due to the  B-Radical reeds in his Hohner on that video 
posted. I can only imagine these  reeds in the body of the harmonica for 
which they were designed and am  awaiting my pre-ordered "D"  harmonica.








-----Original  Message-----
From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx <swebb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 12:23  am
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] B-Radical Sighting



Is there any  word when these might become more widely available. I'm 
willing to 
buy at  least one, in order to keep my mission of trying at least one of 
every  
affordable harp before going back to my SP20s. But I want to hear some  
feedback 
and be sure initial production harps are doing well.  
Appreciate any info.
Steve Webb in Minnesota

---- Brian McInnis  <bluesharpteacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Hey Harp-L
> Got  it today!
> Radical Design, but feels comfortable as sp 20's in my  mouth.
> I'm blues player,song i'm memorizing now: Chasin the Gator by  William 
Clarke.
> Do not need to attack this harp any differently than  my sp 20's, but the 
4,5,and 6 ob's are there easy if I ever need  them.
> All I can say is Wow!
> Thanks Brad
> 
> Brian  McInnis
> Brooklyn
>   





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Message:  8
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:48:08 -0500
From:  icemanle@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Now THIS is great (Dennis Gruenling  content)
To: eviltweed@xxxxxxxxx, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <8CC7B9BDBB14AAA-6748-309D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


cool fat tone - 6 hole OB seamlessly  used, sounding balanced and equal. 
See, it can be  done.








-----Original Message-----
From:  Ev630 <eviltweed@xxxxxxxxx>
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Feb  13, 2010 8:27 pm
Subject: [Harp-L] Now THIS is great (Dennis Gruenling  content)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMNGpC0pitg&feature=related




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Message:  9
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:55:22 -0500
From:  icemanle@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Dennis Gruenling plays Miles
To:  mx714@xxxxxxxxxxx, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <8CC7B9CDE1CFD3A-6748-3179@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


started out like a kinda old  chestnut version - same old same old - UNTIL 
- Dennis takes it to a new level  with his energy. Then, it becomes 
something  "fresh".








-----Original  Message-----
From: THOMAS FIACCO <mx714@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: HARP L  <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:50 pm
Subject:  [Harp-L] Dennis Gruenling plays Miles



Here's a video of my good  freind Dennis Gruenling with The Woodstock 
All-Stars  
performing

"Kind Of Blue".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8JziibVYRc
=




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Message:  10
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:13:49 -0500
From:  icemanle@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] I thought Shakespeare wrote  Juke?
To: yodennis@xxxxxxxxxxx, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <8CC7B9F723E234C-6748-3430@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"




nice - Flavio "gets it".  Relaxed, full bodied, doesn't really sound like 
someone trying or memorizing  Juke, but more like someone really playing 
Juke.  






-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis  Moriarty <yodennis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu,  Feb 11, 2010 10:33 pm
Subject: [Harp-L] I thought Shakespeare wrote  Juke?


http://www.youtube.com/user/flavioharmonica#p/u/14/ga2STmpyTgc    :)








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Message:  11
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:35:00 -0500
From:  icemanle@xxxxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] check it out....
To:  harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:  <8CC7BA2677E6C0B-6748-37D8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Sandy Weltman doing what he does  real  well.......


http://web.me.com/sweltman1/SandyWeltmanMusicCalendar/Hot_Club_Caravan/Pages
/tiny.html




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Message:  12
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:00:07 -0500
From: THOMAS FIACCO  <mx714@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] Jason Riccis setup
To: HARP  L <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:  <COL121-W58393B5EF4FA613145DFA3E84B0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type:  text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RODRLqh3uao   

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