Re: [Harp-L] re: Breaking-in



I like the ruler effect as a guide. Buy TWO styrene rulers. Place one on your desk with 3" ON the desk and 9" OFF the edge. Twang the ruler. Watch it vibrate. Now twang it harder. Watch it vibrate. Keep twanging harder and harder till it can't take it any more. Take the second ruler. This time place only 2" on the desk and 10" off. Repeat the experiment. Ok, see. Turtle, Tortoise, Terrapin..almost the same thing. Reeds are just like those rulers. Springy....to a POINT.

So if a person feels they are a whale and have to expell 16.489 gallons from their blow hole, something has gotta give.

smo-joe (who DOES believe that offset and arc change the chemistry of the reeds).

On May 15, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Joe Spiers wrote:

If you manipulate a reed (reset the arc or even change the offset), often it
will flatten the pitch. The pitch of the reed will return towards where it
was after as little as a few hours to as long as a couple weeks, sometimes
longer. Some reed "recipes" react this way more dramatically than others.
Would you consider this as some sort of evidence of the molecular "healing"
that Sissi describes? I think it makes sense and fits the practical
experiences I have, for what it's worth. I thought it was a very interesting
article and am glad to see this discussion.
Joe Spiers



----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern" <jevern@xxxxxxx> To: <msky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Harp L Harp L" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Harp-L] re: Breaking-in


The material of the SS reeds is likely to be more fatigue resistant than copper alloys. However, unless I see evidence to the contrary, I conclude that any new SS reed is as strong as it is ever going to be and a brief period of gentle playing won't increase its fatigue resistance. A period of gentle playing might get you into the habit of playing gently, thus causing your reeds to last longer.

Vern

On May 15, 2010, at 10:15 AM, msky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

I just sent away for a 5-pack of Seydel 1847 silvers. I generally use Sp20s, but I've enjoyed the one 1847 silver that I presently own more than any other harp I've tried, and I felt like I deserved a present from myself.

Anyway, having read Vern's comments below, and not being a metallurgist, is breaking-in a good idea for the stainless steel reeds? If so, what would be the recommended break-in method?


Surely you do not claim that there is something exceptional about harmonica reeds >that exempt them from the properties of brass or bronze.

There is an effect called "coaxing" that occurs in iron and mild steel but not in non->ferrous alloys. A long period of cycling at low stress followed by long periods of >increased stress at successively higher levels can increase fatigue life. However >those conditions are not met by harmonica break-in because the reeds are not mild >steel, the break-in period is short, and there are no successive long periods of >gradually increasing stress.








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